Fire and Venture Plot

Thread in 'Game-Related' started by Pendzez Zazkex, Feb 28, 2009.

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  1. Ok, I think I should shed full light onto this Plot. There are a couple of questions I would like to ask, but first...

    Pendzez has been having dreams that he's been fighting someone that is from the past. This person is Jufrow, an enemy of his twelfth ancestor. His twelfth ancestor is Hion, however, Jufrow is Hion's brother. Hion and Jufrow were the first of all Zazkex's in the whole of Ramath. The modern day Ramth-lehi Zazkex history states that Hion and Jufrow were just created Jufrow hated his brother because that he was more the hero than Jufrow. Because of this, Jufrow tried to take control of Ramath-lehi by using a Dark Fronima and the help of Daemons. He formed an Army of Daemons with the Dark Fronima to make magics that was beyond any master ranked Pendragon. Hion, with all his strength, managed to break through the flooding army of Daemons and defeat his brother. Before Jufrow passed into the Dark Fronima, he placed a curse upon Hion, saying, "When your soul has been obtained, I shall finish what I started. I'll be the pefect test." After so, he disappeared into the Dark Fronima.

    Pendzez in the modern era of Ramath-lehi searches for his family soul orbs, starting with Yu'kade Zazkex, his great-grandfather. Pendzez travels to Machina Ruins where Fautal Vliemd's Excavation Team has dug up tomb doors that have guns marked on them. Before He continues, he trys explaining to the small group that the doors are inpregnable because of magicks that's binding them. He then explains that his Sol Crest is the key. Hethen quotes from his ancestor's journal about the Crest. It said that Hion was given the Crest by a God that was the son of the Great Creator. This God claimed that Pendzez was going to be born as the 13th Zazkex Generation. He also said that Pendzez is his brother and entrusted th Zazkexs to train Pendzez in the many weapons through soul orbs that he will collect. This God also said that Pendzez mus never be told about his past life. He'll find out when it's time.

    Now, when Jufrow was made along with Hion, Jufrow was supposed to be a test to see if Pendzez is able to get in touch with his former self and help the planet against Jufrow.

    Now, there are questions that I want to ask. Is it possible for God's souls to be reincarnated into a Pendragon body, and when Pendzez is able to bring back his former self, is it alright I did something like that?

    This has been the whole plot the whole time. So, I was just shedding light on it. Though some of it would seem to be God-mode, I was asking if something would go on with a plot like this.
     
  2. Um. I really wish you had of mentioned this stuff before, because a lot of this sort of isn't working for me.

    There is no such thing as Dark Fronima. "Dark" magic is based out of the Nothing, as the Nothing is Fronima's opposite.

    Soul orbs can't really exist. When pendragons die, their souls go to Fronima.

    The stuff you have about gods really doesn't work either.

    13 generations ago, there were also no gods on Ramath-lehi. There haven't been any gods on the planet in thousands upon thousands of years. A family line remaining "pure" for that length of time is a little unrealistic as well.

    As for your questions, no it's not possible for a pendragon to be a reincarnated god. It's no alright that you did that because we didn't even discuss this. -_-; This was why Dumu and I were asking for a plot proposal way back when. We wanted to make sure that everything could at least be plausible and help you out with it.
     
  3. Sorry if I didn't mention this before, but I was actually still thinking if I should go on with this.

    Jodie, this is the bestest plot that I could come up with with my very limited creative mind. I see your points about things, but even if you did ask me to change it, i still would like it to have this similiar plot. i mean... I don't know.

    I also thought it would have been a good mix for Ramath's development.

    I know you have objections to the whole, but... I don't know.
    What would you suggest?
     
  4. I'll say this now: When Jodie says no, she means no. Same with me.

    I do understand you're attached to this plot. However I am in agreement with Jodie. You went too quickly and posted this up before Jodie and I could fairly go over it and now - unfortunately - you've gotten these kinds of responses. You should chalk this up to a learning experience.

    The one other thing that leaps out at me is "beyond any Master rank" - even in principle that's highly questionable due to the word, "Master" - expert, they know all there is to know in their specified field(s) (as described in the trade ranks page). Regardless of the plot we're discussing, this concept won't fly anywhere at any time.

    Placing a curse is fine, returning to the depths of Fronima in a dream is okay. Your references to Gods is a little ambiguous - Great Creator? I'm not going to put words in your mouth; what Great Creator?

    Mm.. like Jodie, this whole thing isn't gelling well for me. There are too many things which seem flimsy for a plot of this magnitude, and other things are flat out incorrect and inaccurate. If you do want to proceed with this plot, we will be asking you to change it and we will be wanting to see a summary. In the end, no one here wants to crush anyone else's ideas; when they're talking about something big with little to no supportable foundation then we're going to step in and try to aid that person rehash their idea into something they will like and enjoy.

    Bear in mind, too, DED, that I've been around for -- what -- 5 years? Obviously Jodie's been here from the start :D. We've seen plots soar, we've seen them flounder and die. So if we say "no" then know that it's perhaps in your best interests. Work with us, though, and you could make a worthwhile plot, alright?
     


  5. And, if you wanted me to change it, you will need to specifically point out what is worth changing.
    Also, work with you. I have a very limited creative mind. I acn only offer little ideas at a time. This plot is the only thing that is big and done independently. I know I like need to be dependent for plots like this. I... just don't know.
     
  6. The best way to expand your creative mind if to just start absorbing. Books, tv, real life, anywhere, just start thinking about the stories you hear and how you could make them your own. You'll start to develop your own supply in no time :)

    Now for this plot, there will have to be editing done to Ramathify it. It would probably even be best to build it from the bottom up again, so a good place to start might be to either find the key point to this story line, or your favorite part of it. Try writing it in one or two sentences, then we can help you fit it into the world.
     
  7. Summed up very nicely.

    Before this is discussed further, trim it right down to the core essentials and PM Jodie, and BCC it to me. We'll have a talk about it and reply to you with our thoughts. That sounds, to me, like the best way forward. From there, it can be built up.

    Please be flexible, though. Something to bear in mind while trimming down is that we have a historical time-line. In early correspondence Jodie and I said there could be flexibility, and we'd actually like to see this be bigger and more involving than you initially set out.

    As a side note: I'm in England, GMT+0. I don't mind being PMed about topics, per se, but be aware that I have College 5 days of the week, and will reply to topics when I have a free moment to do so. I understand any urgency you may feel, but hang in there =)
     
  8. The tension's killing me.
     
  9. I have been keeping you up to date with conversations. Things can only be discussed at a certain pace. Hang in.
     
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